JEFF'S TRIAL WED. 13 TEVET 5767/3 JANUARY 2007

Today's hearing started at 12:30, with, Baruch Hashem, full-house attendance!

Today the prosecution finished her cross examination of Jeff. She shot wildly in all directions with her own big guns, in a desperate attempt to prove that Jeff is a violent Jewish terrorist who intended to keep the weapon, bullets, etc. that he brought or imported, to himself, for his own use or the use of his compatriots in the future, to harm Arabs. Her main method was to point out contradictions between what Jeff had told his interrogators (all of which was recorded during the interrogations) and his testimony during his trial. Jeff, for his part, had logical answers to almost all of the prosecutor's attempts.

The prosecutor pointed out that Jeff spoke of M. and E. (of Tapuach) helping him to make aliya, and that he knew in advance that M. was the leader of an organization that had been outlawed. But Jeff said that all he knew before making aliya was that they trained dogs to protect settlers. When the prosecutor insisted that Jeff said during his interrogation that he indeed did know about M., Jeff replied that the only thing he knew was M. had a group, and that he never spoke to M. before his aliya.

The prosecutor mentioned that Jeff said M. told him that he's “freelance”, not a member of any organization, because M. wanted to get to know him better and would not accept his (Conservative - DM)) conversion (done in the U.S. - DM) Jeff replied that A.K. helped him get into Yeshiva, after which he heard the group was closed down, so that there was no longer a “group” to accept him. When questioned re the meaning of “freelance”, Jeff explained that he didn’t have to do anything in Tapuach that he didn’t want to do, that he could do things in the yeshiva there if he wanted.

The Prosecutor said that Jeff told the investigators that Arabs should be expelled, and M. & E. said they should be killed, but Jeff didn't remember them saying that.

The following is indirectly quoted from the cross examination. (Pros. - Prosecutor, J. - Jeff):

Pros. You also told theinvestigators you'll help Israel in any way possible, that you wanted to fight legally, and you explained that you wanted to fight with the weapons you brought.

J. No.

Pros. The investigator said that you said someone could fight using your weapon, and you said yes.

J. I meant someone in the military.

Pros. Your weapon will be used by the military for what purpose?

J. For a Sniper’s Squad.

Pros. The weapon to be used against what?

J. By the military against terrorists.

Pros. When you made aliya in March of 2006, you had brought things with you.

J. Yes.

Pros. You brought 3 scopes, mask, lasersite. Why did you bring them?

J. I brought them to give to the army.

Pros. Why did you want to give them these things and the rifle only 3 months later?

J. How do I give it to the IDF properly, if not in package (all at once). (Jeff at this point accused the pros. of taking everything he said and interpreting it to her advantage). I brought the stuff for me because I knew I had to do guard duty in Tapuach.

Judge: Why didn’t you bring everything together?

J. I Couldn’t get it all on the plane.

Pros. Why didn’t you get in touch with the IDF re who to bring the items to? You could have found out who to contact in the army. Why didn’t you?

J. It’s hard to contact people if you have to leave at 5 a.m. from Tapuach to get to the Yeshiva at 7 a.m., and stay all day till 7 p.m. and then go back home to Tapuach.

Pros. I don’t think you can use your going to the Yeshiva as an excuse. You admitted you brought the weapon in illegally.

J. Yes.

Pros. Why didn’t you bother to get a license?

J. I didn’t know how to get a license, and I didn’t speak Hebrew to be able to find out.

Pros. There weren’t enough people you met in Tapuach you could have talked to about this?

J. No, I didn’t want to involve anybody else – just myself.

Pros. You could have asked around. You kept your possession of the weapon in a secret and conspiratorial way.

J. I didn’t think I should talk openly about guns. I only hinted to people re what I had, I didn’t say exactly what.

Pros. It’s clear that you didn’t bring the gun to hunt – there are no lions and bears here.

J. No.

Pros. You didn’t bring the rifle and ammunition for decoration.

J. (emphatically) No!

Pros. When you made aliya, you spoke to the Absorption Ministry clerk, Anatoly?

J. Yes.

Pros. What did you tell him?

J. That I wanted to do one year in the military, that I had a bullet proof vest and 3 scopes and other stuff for the military, but Anatoly didn’t remember.

Pros. You said that you had something to give to the IDF, you didn’t say anything re the scopes and the mask.

J. Yes, I did.

Pros. You wanted to give the stuff to the military or to the government?

J. To the military.

Pros. But during your interrogation you said you wanted to give them to the government.

J. No, I said the army. They wrote down something else other than what I said.

Pros. Why didn’t you tell him (Anatoly) about the weapons?

J. If I had told him I would have been taken to jail immediately.

Pros. You knew he wouldn’t believe you.

J. No.

Pros. Didn’t you ask him about who to contact?

J. Only after my arrest, an ex-Shabac officer told me who to contact.

Pros. Why didn’t you try to make contact with the military people before your arrest?

J. There was no way to contact anyone before all the stuff arrived.

The prosecutor then brought up Shaul, who was a witness for the prosecution, who lives in Tapuach and who is an army veteran. She asked Jeff: Why didn’t you try to connect with him?

J. I did. He said I didn’t, but I did.

Pros. What did you ask him?

J. I asked him about who to contact re the scopes and the mask. He told me he’d buy the scopes, but not the mask.

Pros. What about the rifle?

J. I didn’t mention this to him because I didn’t trust him. I asked him about putting the stuff in the right hands.

Pros. When were you planning to give the stuff to the IDF?

J. As soon as I got it all to Tapuach, I wanted to phone the IDF.

Pros. During the investigation, you said that you would wait a few years, until the right time to contact them, till you met somebody in the IDF. Is this true?

J. No.

Pros. You said you wanted to store them by a friend, A.H., till “the right time”.

J. Yes.

Pros. You said in your investigation that you’d give the stuff to someone for good use.

J. I meant an army person.

Pros. Why hide them by A.H., and not in your house?

J. People could see the stuff in my house and take it for ill purposes.

Pros. You said “they might take it”, you didn’t say they definitely would.

The prosecutor asked Jeff whether he shot the rifle when he got it, and Jeff said yes, he wanted to test it. When he was asked whether it wouldn’t have been better for the IDF to check the rifle, not him, he replied that he wanted to be the one to check it before he gave it to the army, in case it was defective. He said he wanted to give to the IDF as a test weapon.

Pros. Why didn’t you just send the IDF a photo or brochure about the rifle instead of bringing it?

J. A photo or brochure doesn’t show what the rifle can do – not adequately.

Some of us laughed when the prosecutor asked him the ridiculous question: Why didn’t you bring just one bullet, if you brought just one rifle? The Prosecutor said that during his investigation Jeff statd he could muffle the sound of the rifle, but Jeff denied saying this, that Shabac tried to get him to say it, Jeff explained that the rifle can’t be silenced because the bullet shot from it, at 5200 ft./second, breaks the sound barrier.

The pros then said the rifle was an attack rifle, not for self defense, to which Jeff replied that it’s a long-range shooting weapon, for hunting, or whatever, not a sniper rifle.

When asked why he bought long range bullets, Jeff said it’s a long-range rifle so any bullets shot from it will go long-range.

The prosecutor then asked Jeff why he brought a bullet maker, and Jeff responded that it’s not a bullet maker, just a bullet loader. He said he doesn’t know how to make lead for bullets, which the prosecutor said contradicted what he told investigators. Jeff insisted that says he only brought special bullets made by the manufacturer, not ones he made. But the pros. kept pounding away that he brought the raw material to make bullets, not just to re-load them.

The pros kept insisting that Jeff wanted to produce bullets for himself to use in the future. Jeff replied emphatically: No – this is for the army. The pros. moved to her main argument that Jeff brought scales (to weigh the gunpowder) and the other stuff NOT for the IDF, but to prove himself to the organization, to get them to accept his conversion, and to convince them that he could help them.

After showing photos of the scale & other stuff Jeff brought, our pros. then said that no court would believe Jeff’s explanation, that Jeff had plans to use the material with others he connected with in Tapuach. Correct?

J. Not correct.

Now for a lighter moment in the trial: The Pros. then showed Jeff a cartoon of Olmert bowing down to a Hamas leader with an ax in his hand to cut his head off, asking him if that was from his computer. We all saw the cartoon and burst out in laughter, which shocked the pros. and caused the judge to warn us (with a smile on her face) to be quiet. Jeff insisted that the cartoon was not from his own computer, but from another computer in the same house that didn't belong to him.

After almost an hour and a half, the Judge concluded this session, and asked both lawyers whether they would prefer to make written or oral summations. It was decided that the Judge would get written summations. The pros. is to complete hers for the Judge by Jan. 17, Baruch Ben-Yosef will complete his by Jan. 24. After the judge reviews the summations, a date will be set for the verdict.

Thus ended an exciting session, with many of the people in the court contributing money to me towards Jeff's defense and expenses. Unfortunately, we didn't get a chance to talk to Jeff, who was led away in hand and leg cuffs rather quickly from the courtroom.

Again, if anyone who was in court today has anything to add, please post it.

Stay tuned for a post about the verdict date, and anything else important about Jeff's case, which will soon be concluded, im yirtzeh Hashem, in his favor.

Kol Tuv till next time,
Dina

1 comment:

Cosmic X said...

A little bit of formatting to make this readable would be nice.